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How to repair water damage in front of the door
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June 29, 2018
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I have a Retro 155 with the drop floor and just discovered a soft spot in front of the front door.  The damage is only about 1′ square.

While I’ve done plenty of home improvement and carpentry, I don’t understand how the trailer was assembled, so I’m not sure how to fix the floor.

If I cut the bad area out and replace it with 5/8 OSB, what is the current floor screwed or bonded too?  Do I need to extend the repair to reach the metal frames beneath?  Is it secured with self-tapping sheet metal screws? 

And has something come to market that will fix a small area like this with an epoxy or some other magic in a can?

 

Thanks-

August 27, 2019
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You can peal back the vinyl and cut out the damaged area and replace it with marine grade plywood

September 8, 2019
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Usually, home tricks don’t work in these situations, it’s better to contact an expert. 

September 8, 2019
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If you have zero skills, it is best to leave it to the pros. I replaced almost all of the flooring in mine. It was a job but then again, I can do things.

October 5, 2019
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We have a 2018 Retro 195 and love it, but just discovered some of the black/white flooring below one of the back windows near the bed is going all black like mold is developing just beneath the surface.  Has anyone else had this problem?  The roof is not leaking nor does there seem to be a leak anywhere along that side. We are wondering if there could be a leak around the window which is just above the darkening. Could water be leaking in between the outside and inside paneling to the sub-floor? Of course the warranty is expired. Thanks for any suggestions or ideas.  Janine

October 21, 2019
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I joined just to reply to this thread but hope to add more in time if I can be helpful. 
We have a 2016 189r and have similar issues to post #1 and #5. 
Replying to post #1. It sounds like I had the exact issue. A really soft spot inside the door. As we have an extended service plan we took to dealer who informed us the soft floor was not covered. They gave an estimate of 45 hours labor at over $100 per.   I am a bit handy so I tackled it myself.   I trimmed the vinyl flooring around the walls and found the floor to be rotten.   I had to remove some cabinets and found ingress of water from the wheel wells. I cut out the bad spot with great care to avoid piercing the membrane underneath.   Original floor was screwed to frame members set 20” center to center.  I cut out enough to obtain full support of the frame members and put in a piece of exterior grade plywood the same thickness as original floor.  Then recovered with the vinyl flooring after allowing a lot of drying time.  Then caulked around the edges of the flooring and used thin threshold material at the seam into bathroom and down the aisleway.  It looks professional and the floor is solid again.   THEN I took care of the original issue.   The wheel wells are NOT caulked on the outside.  I mean that if you remove tires, crawl under and look you will see where the siding comes down and overlaps the wheel wells the manufacturer never sealed it.   You could see fiberglass insulation inside.   I caulked and sprayed a LOT of undercoating in all the cracks there.   I believe this resolved this 1st issue.
This leads me to a similar issue as post #5.  I should have inspected the entire underside of this trailer.  Last week we drove through a couple hundred miles or rainy weather.  When stopping for the night we had a wet floor closer to the front of the trailer and even under the bed.  In the morning I looked under the trailer and behind the storage compartments.   Storage compartments showed moisture and AGAIN the entire length of the lower edge of the siding where it meets the floor underneath is NOT SEALED.  Upon arriving home I cut more vinyl flooring and pulled it up to allow the floor to dry. There is some mold forming.  But it had not rotted yet.   My plan is to let it dry completely, lay the vinyl siding back down and seal the living daylights out of the underside of this trailer like the manufacturer SHOULD HAVE DONE.  We love this trailer but water ingress will reduce the value to zero in a short time.  Every place a screw pokes through and every place a water pipe goes through or joint between siding and floor needs to be hermetically sealed.  It would have been better if Riverside made these things with a floor of higher grade plywood as OSB has a very short life when wet.  Once water gets in it has no place to go.   But not sealing it….. Riverside would not appreciate my comments about this.  

I do maintain my roof very well.  It seems to be very sturdy and has had not had any leaks.   Check the underside of your trailer….that is my advice.   

October 22, 2019
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Geimer189,

I think you are spot on with the problems of leakage in the retros.  I contacted White Water and they have asked me to take pictures of the mold developing, which I plan to do this week, and send it to them and the dealer from which we purchased the unit.  Not sure what they will do, but at least they didn’t fluff me off.  Should anything come of this, I will write about it in the forum.  I’m afraid at our age, we are not able to redo the flooring as you have done.  Thank you for your input. With your permission, I plan to use some of your wording when I contact White Water to explain better the leakage problem.  Thank you.  Janine

October 22, 2019
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Of course you can use what I have written. And I am glad that White Water did not ignore your contact.  Hopefully your feedback will result in design or process improvements or better quality control.  And of course I hope it results in rectification of your issues. I will send some pictures of our own too as soon as I reduce the size acceptable for use in this forum.

I wonder if PerryPridgen might comment if the issue experienced was on a White-Water make of trailer and how long it was owned before having to replace nearly all of the floor?

I was glad to have found the problems at the time I did before more damage occurs.    If I can dry things out, kill the mold and seal against all moisture we might keep the trailer. 

Good luck…

October 22, 2019
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“Moisture1” picture is inside the trailer with vinyl flooring pealed up a bit showing where moisture has intruded.  It looks a littl better at the time I took this picture as it had been drying for 24 hours by then.  It was quite wet when I first pealed back the flooring.

“Moisture2” shows under the trailer where the edge of the siding is folded under the flooring.  No caulking or sealing material there and on a rainy day on the road water seeps in.  The screw is rusty but which may not seem to be a problem but it is displaying how more moisture has entered there causing the flooring material to swell. Sealing the screw heads would have prevented this.

 

“Moisture3” shows the view into the storage compartment where the floor was wet and mold began growing. This is right above the area where “Moisture2” was taken.

“Moisture4” is the same view as “Moisture3” but with flooring pealed up and wet material under. It is drying out which I will let continue for about a week and then seal it all back up.  THEN I will use undercoating all over the bottom of this trailer.

In case anyone has doubts the other side of this trailer has identical issues… not sealed or caulked and water intrusion.  

Once water enters it spreads quickly by capillary action and with vinyl flooring just stays there.  Once found these issues need to be dealt with quickly.  

Again good luck

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October 28, 2019
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Dear Retro Owners: I’ve been following some of the other replies to my problem with our 2018 floor becoming moldy.  Geimer189 was one of those and I want to thank you especially because I used a lot of what you wrote in my email to White Water about our water problem.  You mentioned you thought it was mostly caused by water soaking the under carriage of the camper whether from the wheels spinning water off as we drive through rain or puddles of water, or just from splashing up into the under carriage during heavy rainstorms.  Well, I wanted you to know that White Water is willing to replace our flooring. The catch, of course there has to be one, is that we must drive it up there, wait around for a week, and then drive it home. But, since the summer is the best time to leave Florida because it’s usually so hot, we’ve scheduled the repair for June 2020 and will just play tourist in and around LaGrange, Indiana while it is being replaced. Maybe they took pity on us because we are in our 70’s and 80’s but whatever the reason, we are grateful that they will make the repairs and not charge us.  I will stay on this forum a little while longer and give everyone reading these the results of our efforts once the repairs are completed.  Good luck with everyone else. Janine195

November 2, 2019
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If you are dealing with water damage problem in your house or at any property owned by you, then you will be always advised to have the service from the professional fire or water restoration company or agent. If you hire any restoration company on your own then there will be much risk to failing at the project or spending high price at service cost. Instead of Doing it on your own, you should have already done with the agreement of the insurance policy for the water, fire damage. When the water damage or flood damage occurs you can directly contact to the Insurance company or you can also claim on the company. If the insurance company is delaying the process then, in this case, you can contact to the public adjusters like Alliance public adjusters for the further legal process.

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